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2016 Mercedes CLA gets More Power

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Details on the CLA 45 AMG model for next year are beginning to leak out of the skunkworks. The 2.0 liter force fed 4 cylinder will be pushing out 375 horsepower and have a chest thumping 350 pound-feet of torque. 2015 buyers will be a little upset to see the 20 horsepower bump I am sure. The top end of the gear box will also get some tweaks to help the car be quicker though the longer sprints as well.

All of this translates to 0.3 seconds off off the run up to 60 miles an hour. It gets there in 4.1 seconds which is pretty damned close to the SL63 AMG if you get out your measuring sticks.

You will get some lux stuff as well. As is to be expected from the pint-sized AMG car, you get multiple driving modes via the Dynamic Select System. You get dual zone climate, keyless start, and infotainment systems. There is a fancy badge that reads "Turbo 4Matic" that simply reminds me of 1950's era names for transmission systems, but that is just me. It probably means that this thing is fast and ready to tear down roads without ending up in a ditch without trying too hard.

You get a limited slip differential at the front, AMG Adaptive Suspension, Race Mode, Performance Steering Wheel, and pushes the top speed to 167 mph. At the same time, the AMG Driver's Package is discontinued, and the AMG Performance Studio Package is dropped on the CLA45.

The 2016 CLA45 AMG goes on sale in October here in the US.
 
#3 ·
<gasp!>

Lol to tell the truth it was on my spreadsheet during the search for a new car but was eliminated relatively quickly.
 
#4 ·
Ha I lucked out then. The performance Studio Package is super sexy and I'm glad I have it :)
 
#6 ·
No face lift? YES!

Tweak in suspension, dynamic mode knob, couple forgetable extras...

1 bolt on puts you right back to spec, I'd say we did good :)

We still winning over here with 15's and 14s!
 
#11 ·
Correction to OP, Performance Studio package isn't discontinued in 2016. It's been updated, basically it's the Orange Art Edition that was shown on the Shooting Brake a few months back. Available for certain colors, white, black, mountain gray and silver.
 
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I did find where the new GLC will have a 2.0 turbo engine with 241 HP. since this is obviously not the AMG engine it would appear that it is the CLA 250 engine with upgrades. See below

While the GLC will be offered with a range of gas and diesel powertrains, US consumers will be offered the GLC300 first. Counterintuitively and like the C300, the entry level CUV uses a 2.0-liter, turbocharged four-cylinder engine with 241 horsepower and 273 pound-feet of torque. While we expect 4Matic to be the popular option, Mercedes will also offer a rear-drive-only model.[/FONT]


It will be interesting if there are any changes in the internals, i.e.: pistons, rods, crank, valves, injectors, etc. If not, if it is only a tune, then you would think that our engine (CLA 250) could accept the same tune. Question is would MB make it available for sale? If it is only a download you would think they would offer it for sale similar to the price of a Carlsson or Renn tech, or one of the others, and then hopefully warrant the engine. I would love to have 240 HP!!!!
 
#14 ·
Not saying upgrades won't eventually happen b/c that's normal but you have not posted anything from a reputable source. Everything is just random guesses and forum posts which can come from any place.

Also the GLC is a C class SUV hence the reference to the C300 not the CLA250. The engine specs you posted is nothing new and it's what currently found in the C300. You are really stretching quite a bit by saying MB will upgrade the CLA250 to the C300 specs. Doubtful that will happen unless MB wants to call it the CLA300. You are comparing specs from different product lines.

If you want a more logical comparison by model look at the A class. The A45 AMG is what was announced with the power/transmission updates first and the CLA45 AMG followed suit. New model year A class is usually announced before the CLA so look for what changes are coming with the 2016 A-Class and those changes will most likely follow suit with the 2016 CLA.

A Class - A/CLA/GLA
B Class - B/B electric
C Class - C/GLC
E Class - E/GLE/CLS
S Class - S/S Coupe
G Wagon
 
#16 ·
I am not saying the CLA 250 will receive a performance enhancement. What I specifically spoke was the change in HP for the 2.0 turbo 4 going from 208 to 241 for the GLA. If it is the same engine, and no changes to internals (rods, crank, pistons, injectors, plugs, etc) then you would hope the tune could be used for the 208 HP engine safely. As far as reputable source below is from Motor Trend:

Under the hood, the 3.5-liter V-6 and 2.1-liter, turbodiesel I-4 have been replaced by a turbocharged, 2.0-liter I-4 with 241 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque that first debuted in the C-Class sedan. Don't be surprised to see a GLC300d 4Matic model with a turbodiesel-four debut later this year or for the 2017 model year. Unlike its sedan stablemate, the 2016 GLC ditches the seven-speed automatic for Mercedes' in-house nine-speed automatic. Between the new powertrain and the crossover's weight loss, the GLC is expected to be much more fuel efficient than the outgoing GLK. A more rigid body and better acoustics were used to lower noise, vibration, and harshness to make the GLC's cabin quieter and more refined.

Read more: 2016 Mercedes-Benz GLC-Class - First Look - Motor Trend


If you will re read my statement I said if that tune is safe for the GLA hopefully MB would consider selling the tune to CLA owners that are interested in an upgrade and merely charging. MB must see that there is a demand for a more powerful engine even for the CLA so why allow Renn tech, VGR, Rebellion, Carlsson, etc to make money when MB could sell the tune and offer a warranty.
 
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GLA and GLC are different cars. Motortred article you posted is talking about the GLC which was previously known as the GLK. It's based on the C class platform as I noted above hence the new name GLC.

Nothing to do with the CLA or GLA. Think you probably just misread. :). Don't see anything in the article you posted where it mentions the GLA or CLA. All I see is C class references which is a completely different car. Rear wheel drive, different engine, different transmission, etc.
 
#18 ·
Yoshi, read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. I mentioned that there is a new HP rating for the GLC and it is based on the 2.0 turbo four. It will have 241 HP. What I said is it would be nice if that HP rating is based on a tune ONLY and not internal changes such as forged rods, pistons, crank, etc. Next step, if it is the same engine as the 2.0 208 HP, but with a different tune, then I said it would be nice if MB would sell the tune, and warrant the engine, for previous models. It is NOT a different engine if it is a 2.0 turbo 4 with 241 HP. Is it coincidental that 241, if I remember correctly, is what Carlsson offered for the 2.0 turbo four rated at 208. I said it would be nice if MB would sell the tune, just like Rebellion, VRG, Carlsson and others are doing now. I never said that motor trend said this would happen for the CLA. Please read again. Thank you.
 
#20 · (Edited)
Yoshi, read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.
First off I just want to clarify I'm not arguing with you or escalating things but I honestly have no idea what you wrote. Trying to follow your last few posts is really confusing.

I mentioned that there is a new HP rating for the GLC and it is based on the 2.0 turbo four.
You actually said the GLA and then referenced an article about the GLC. You even bolded GLA.

07SGT said:
What I specifically spoke was the change in HP for the 2.0 turbo 4 going from 208 to 241 for the GLA.
07SGT said:
I never said that motor trend said this would happen for the CLA. Please read again. Thank you.
yup cause acutally you said it and then posted a unrelated article about the GLC from motortrend.

The CLA 250 is reported to receive an even larger boost of HP to approximately 240.

Now I get what you are trying to say that hey the C300 has a 2.0 turbo 4.. wouldn't it be nice if MB brought HP# to the CLA250? Yup it would be nice. Going to happen? NOPE.. Two totally different cars and platforms. Which is why I stated if you want to see what they are going to do with the CLA dont look at the C class/CLC but at the A class which is what the CLA is based on.
 
#21 ·
OK, now we are communicating. I am not looking at the class or the platform, but rather the engine. IF it is the same engine but with a different tune, then it would mean that an improved tune would be safe for our CLA 250's. And IF MB would sell the tune it would make sense as they could make the money currently going to Rebellion, Carlsson, etc AND offer a warranty. I know Ford does the same thing right now for the Mustang and I believe also the Focus. Offering a hot rod tune and offering a warranty because they (Ford) trust the tune. So, again, it would make sense for MB to sell this to those that want it, making the customer happy, and most importantly, bringing in money. MB could offer the tune for 1,500 (less than Carlsson), take 30-60 minutes to install through the OBD port and everyone is happy, especially MB.
 
#23 ·
It would be nice ..but don't think MB has ever done that in the past and doesn't seem likely that they would start offering tunes. I think most of their traditional clientele also are less focussed on aftermarket performance upgrades.
 
#22 ·
Yeah it seems the transverse (FWD 208hp M270) and the longitudinal (RWD 241hp M274) are variants of the same base engine at least per Benz tech releases. It would be neat to reprogram for different tune so there is no piggy back. Some dude down under did that to his C diesel but had the hardware/software to do it (star diagnostics box etc)
 
#25 ·
And would violate their sales plans anyway and start creating customer silos instead of across the board sales number improvements and class definition models all genius planning at their bean counting headquarters &#55357;&#56859;
Maybe, maybe not. It is all about money. I am sure MB is aware there is an after-market that is making money where they could be making the money. And it would continue to bring the customers back. And if customers love the car even more due to performance then that keeps the customer happy and makes $$$$$ for MB. I wonder if MB is hesitant to add more HP to the CLA 250 because of the transmission and/or torque steer. Granted the 45 has more HP, much more, but it is 4wd. So maybe MB does not want to offer more HP because of wear on the transmission (FWD) and torque steer.